This is some of the worst technology news I've seen in a long time. Smalltalk is the most productive language I've ever used and seeing one of the major vendors signing off is not good news. Okay so Instantiations are going to be taking it over - but let's face it they're not IBM. It wouldn't be so bad if IBM weren't touting Java as a replacement technology. Java?! I mean, everything that's cool about Java was ripped off from Smalltalk and everything they did themselves sucks - 'nuff said there I think. Thank God for Cincom, that's all I can say.